FAN list – a 3 way connection?

Andrew Meadows:

There end up being 3 surnames tangled in this mess, so I’m going to try a bit of color with each surname to try to tie things together.

John M. Smith’s 2nd son (that I know of) was Elias Smith – born about 1810. Elias married Elizabeth Meadows in 1834 in Russell County, Kentucky and Andrew Meadows was Elizabeth’s father.

Andrew was born 17 Jun 1791. I can find him in the 1820 census for Wayne County, Kentucky and Andrew’s father, James, is also in Wayne County in 1810. Andrew can be found in each census for Russell County from 1830 – 1870. According to his tombstone, Andrew died in 1873 and is buried in the Jamestown Cemetery in Russell County.

In Feb, 1833, John M. was made the administrator of the estate of John B. Smith.  I have never been able to found a record for “John B Smith” so I have not been able to make a connection to, but I suspect that he may have been one of John M‘s sons. Andrew Meadows is the security of the Administrator Bond. Interestingly, Hiram Rowe is listed on the Executor’s bond the same day, but Hiram’s name is crossed out and Andrew’s name written in on the Administrator’s bond.

On the “potential line” that I’m trying to connect to, there is a Mercer Co, Kentucky Guardian Bond dated Feb, 1833 for a deceased John Smith. I can only see an abstract for the bond (, but it says that there was an orphan, Fanny – a bondsman, John Garr – and a guardian, John League. I have to wonder if the deceased could be John B. Smith? The timeline works – John M. Smith b. abt. 1776, m. abt 1800 could have had a son, John B. Smith who could have been of marrying age before 1833 and had a child. Is it too much of a coincidence that 2 men named John Smith both died in Feb, 1833 and that records for each appear in the exact 2 counties that I’m trying to connnect? The name “John Smith” is so common, maybe I’m trying too hard to make this work? The Garr surname does appear in a Meadows connection, described below. I’ve done just enough research on John League to know that he moved his family to Indiana, so I don’t expect to see his name again, but I will keep it in the back of my mind.

Andrew Meadows was listed as security along with John Cook for George A. and Elias Smith to be the administrators of their father’s (John M. Smith) estate in 1835.

I began filling in children of Andrew Meadows and doing a quick search on each child and found his youngest son, Andrew C. Meadows, married Mary Margaret Gaar in 1852. The 1900 census for the family included mother-in-law, Fitny. I continued to research and found that Fetnah Jane Smith had married Louis Proctor Garr in 1831. They were the parents of Mary Margaret Garr.

Will this link back to the 1833 Smith/Garr guardian bond?

I decided to create a chart to show how these families relate to each other and as I do research I will continue to look for these surnames in each time frame that I examine. I don’t have the break through yet, but here is the chart.  I tried to arrange the names to show who might have the potential to appear at the same time in the right records to help me narrow down what to look for.  Vertical lines show a parent/child relationships. I did not skip generations.

Smith Garr Meadows Chart

The only names I am taking on faith from someone’s un-sourced online tree would be William Smith and Mary Baber. While Fetnah’s mother in this chart would have been 41 years old when giving birth, William would have been almost 60. I see potential for a missing generation there, but I know that this scenerio is not impossible.

So where do I go from here? I’m not sure. I have a nice pension application file for James Meadows, so I will be checking those names and locations to see if I can find a Smith match. And the Garr/Gaar surnames is more unique than Smith or Meadows, so I’ll certainly be watching for that!

I would love to find out more about the John Smith who died in 1833.  I think I’ll be taking a look at the tax and land records of that time to see if that reveals anything. I’m also going to examine more Wayne County records to see if I can extend the Meadows and Smith association. I’m off to the library right now!

Eight Years is a lifetime?

Eight years.  That’s the entire timeline that I have documented for my 4th-great-grandfather, John M. Smith. And he has been my longest running brick wall in all of my genealogy research. I have 11 pages of notes for John, but the only information that I can prove spans an 8 year period from the time right after Russell County was formed until his death in 1835.  That means a significant portion of his life is still to be discovered!

His first proven appearance comes in a land purchase of 100 acres along the Cumberland River in April of 1827 followed by a listing in the tax records for that same year. Where did John come from before this?  Because it is such a common name and because I have no information on siblings, I have not been able to prove a family connection to take me back another generation.

So I’m turning to names in the “other” category.  Names which may or may not be related but which I hope can yield some clue that will help me break down this brick wall. So who do I have and what do I know about them? I’m planning to list each person one at a time in order to do some “quick” research on each man as I write to help keep me from getting distracted!

James Gilbert: On Dec 31, 1827 a land grant was given to John M. Smith and James Gilbert. The land straddles the Russell County/Wayne County boundary line. I’m unsure why a grant would be given to 2 individuals.  Does this mean it’s likely that they are related? Could James or his wife be related to John’s wife?

The following day, on Jan 1, 1828, another grant was given. In this grant, it says, “granted by the said Commonwealth unto John M Smith & James Gilbert assignee of said Smith who was assignee of Timothy Burgess assignee of Braxton Carter who was assignee of Elijah Hutchison”. So in this grant, John M. had the grant and he sold (I assume) a portion of the grant to James Gilbert but that the original grant was for Elijah Hutchinson who sold to Braxton Carter who sold to Timothy Burgess who sold to John M. Smith.  Timothy Burgess’s line is mentioned as a border of this land.

Doing a very quick search on Ancestry, I found an un-sourced family tree which says that James was born around 1788 and that he married Sally Decker around 1817 in Wayne Co, Kentucky.  The tree indicated that James was born in Wayne County, but it wasn’t formed until 1800, so that assumption is incorrect. In fact, Kentucky wasn’t even a state until 1792.  John Smith was born around 1775 and was married around 1800 based on the age of the oldest child that I am aware of.  Perhaps I should research James’ father – possibly Elijah Gilbert (the only Gilbert I see of the correct age in 1810 Wayne Co census. There is a John Smith in the correct age range on the same census page as Elijah. I will follow up on this.)

I can find James Gilbert listed in the 1820 Wayne County census living next to an Abner Decker. On the Kentucky GenWeb site for Wayne County, there is a transcription that only says “Gilbert, James m. Sally Decker 1817”. The only other Gilbert listed is Richard Gilbert who married Elizabeth Melbourne on 16 Apr 1822. There are several Decker marriages, but James and Sally are one of the earliest listed.  Wayne County was formed in 1800, but the transcribed marriage records begin with 1811.

I find James Gilbert, age 16-25, listed in the 1820 Wayne County census with a wife and a daughter under age 10. (Assuming relationships here.) By 1830, he can be found in Russell County, but both census lists are alphabetical and I cannot tell if he is living near John M. or not.

In 1826, the county boundaries changed and the north western sliver of Wayne County became the south eastern edge of Russell Co, so it’s likely that there was no moving involved between the 1820 census and the 1830 census. In the map below, the white boarder in the center of the map is the area that would become Russell County. This map is off slightly as I know that John’s land was just south of the Cumberland River and that the lower loop of the River was actually in Wayne County.  This is the area where the land grant land was located.


In 1835, James Gilbert and his wife, Elizabeth G. Gilbert (a second wife?) of Spencer County, Kentucky sell their share of the 1827/8 land grant as well as another parcel of land to John M. Smith. John M. died in the fall of 1835.

I can find a James Gilbert in the 1840 Spencer County census, but he is 10 years younger than expected.  In 1850, the census shows that his wife’s name is Elizabeth. By 1860, there is no wife listed, but in 1870, Elizabeth is once again shown.  Perhaps this is another marriage. James is found a final time in the Mortality Schedules indicating that he died in 1879 at the age of 80.  He was listed as a widow. At this time, I have found no probate records for James after doing a quick look at FamilySearch.

As I think through possibilities for gaining information from James Gilbert, I’ve decided to:

1) Search for a marriage record for James Gilbert and Sally Decker to see if there are clues from a bondsman or witness.
2) Search for land transactions for James Gilbert to see if there are any clues to relationships.
3) Continue searching for a will from James Gilbert.
4) Search the tax records for Wayne County to see when Elijah Gilbert died or possibly left the county.
5) I will try to analyze the tax records for Elijah AND the John Smith that I found to see if they arrived in the area around the same time. I’ll need to keep in mind:

  • Wayne County would have been Pulaski County for 1 year just before its formation (1799)
  • Green County from 1793 – 1799.
  • Kentucky became a state in 1792 and at that time, this area was part of Lincoln County.

6) Continue researching Elijah Gilbert to see if I can find a will that might mention a child or grand-children to connect the Gilberts to John M. Smith.

Next time: Andrew Meadows.

Giant (Digital) Bulletin Board

In my last post, I was craving a giant bulletin board to try to sort all of the wills and deeds and marriage records, etc. for the different John Smiths that I’ve found.  So I thought I’d go back to a web site that I used to use several years ago for class projects.  The site is, but boy has it changed a lot since I’ve used it last!

I can’t say that I feel that it is a super easy site to learn, but there are some video tutorials that would be helpful – if I would take the time to watch them! I thought I knew enough to get a basic start, so I just jumped right in.

The cool thing about the site is that you can zoom in or out as much as you want, so my goal is to create an area for at least 3 different John Smiths with each man’s will at the center of their area.  You can include images or text and you can create paths so that a presentation will flow from one area to another as you direct.  But I want to be able to quickly move from one area to another, so I’m just creating my giant bulletin board.

I’m putting the will in the center of each area.  Then I’m placing text for each person mentioned in the will around the circle.  As I find information for each person, I’m adding that along with a line to connect the person to the document or information.  If you double click on an area, the program will zoom to that area for a closer look.  So I can zoom out to see the whole project:

full prezi

Or I can double click to zoom in on a specific person:

zoomed prezi

If you’ve told the site to keep the full sized image when uploading, you can click on an image until it is full screen to be able to read the text. I’m trying to include marriage documents, wills, land records or other information paying close attention to witnesses and neighbors to try to make connections for each family. For example, if a John Smith gave permission for his daughter to marry and the witness to the consent was a neighbor of a specific John Smith, then that could help me narrow down which land deeds go with which man.

It’s pretty slow going because I did not take the time to watch the tutorials – and I’m sure there are some awesome features that I’m not using. It is certainly a work in progress! It is easy to move objects and text at any time, I just wish I could move a group of objects at the same time. (Which is probably possible, I just haven’t learned it yet.)

The free account comes with 100 MB of space – enough for a “few prezi’s” according to the website. I thought it was interesting enough to share my idea, but I’m no where near being knowledgeable enough to give any “how to” information. I just thought you might like to see what I’m doing to see if you might like to give it a try.

Spider Webs of Connections

I was able to spend a few hours at the library today, but for the first time ever, I could not get onto a microfilm scanner because they were all full!  Normally, I’m one of the first at the library on Saturday, but a dead car battery conspired against me – or so I thought…

Because I couldn’t scan the microfilm pages I wanted, I turned to the stacks to look at a few books.  I had looked at these books when I first started to research Smiths in a new location, but nothing stood out to me then.  Now when I look at these books, I see names and connections that I understand – or at least recognize.

Because I wasn’t planning to spend time in the books, I didn’t have my Flip Pal with me, so I took about 25 pictures with my phone. Most of what I got was from a book of Court Order transcriptions. I was looking for anything “promising” with the Smith surname. Some images weren’t in great focus and most were crooked in one way or another, so I decided to type up what I had collected.

As I was typing things up, I saw listings for wills that had been recorded in the County Court with an unexpected Smith as an Executor or Heir. Or guardianship granted to a Smith for a “non-Smith” child. I’m starting to see connections for which John Smith is which based on neighbors surveying roads together. Wouldn’t neighbors be likely to be witnesses for marriages or wills? In some court orders, additional hints appeared with the names – like “John Smith the lesser”. (I’m hoping that is the same thing as Jr!)

So I decided to see if I could find the wills in the Probate Records on Family Search that matched the court orders I have found. What a great thing this has turned out to be! I see all kinds of family connections for daughters that I didn’t have before. But there is a lot of criss-crossing that has me longing for an empty bulletin board from school that I can pin pages to and start making a “spider web” with yarn to really understand it all. Yarn to show that this group sheet connects with this land record which connects to this marriage bond, etc.

I wonder if my husband would notice a giant bulletin board in the hallway…

In needs of some fans!

For my entire life….well, it seems like all my life, but probably just several years…. I’ve been trying to find the father of John M. Smith who died in Russell County, Kentucky in 1835.  I’ve got hints on top of hints, but the name John Smith is so darn common!  One of the hints that I have has lead me to jump back over a generation and now I’m trying to get them to meet in the middle.

Recently, I received a new hint, but to make the connection – or at least convince me not to stop trying to make the connection – I’ve got to follow the fans (friends, acquaintances, neighbors) and every thing I look at makes me say, “Where have I heard THAT name before”?

No matter how often I’ve heard the advice to keep track of these people, I never have taken the advice and now I’m regretting it.

So where to begin? Of course, it will involve using Excel. This morning, I was able to make a worksheet of the marriage records for the cluster of families and I’m including witnesses, bondsmen and pastors, if known. Next, I’m going to work on land records, but the stack is quite tall, involves at least 3 counties, and I feel like I’m about to jump into a very deep pool without any floatation device.  It seems too random and unorganized. There will be WAY more land records than marriage records. I certainly don’t want to have to do this again, so I want to be thorough. But knowing me as well as I do, I will have to FORCE myself not to get side-tracked, because that’s my M.O.  Read a document, think of 5 questions, research one of those, which leads me to more documents…..till suddenly I have no idea what I was working on originally.

Somehow, I will have to come up with a way to show WHICH John Smith or which family group a record belongs to…

Feeling frustrated and overwhelmed. Advice is welcome!

Siri hints

Yesterday, due to a bad sinus headache, I desperately turned to Siri on my phone to transcribe a deed that was out of focus on the microfilm.  This worked so well, I did some research to help limit the amount of corrections I was making after copying the email I sent into my word processor.  I thought I’d share a few more common things here but you can see a complete list of commands from the Apple site by clicking here. As I collected this list, I had deeds and wills in mind, so you may find additional commands helpful for other things on the Apple site.

Now if I could just learn to pronounce “appurtenances” so that Siri would understand me….

What to say Result
open bracket [
close bracket ]
open parenthesis (
close parenthesis )
open brace {
close brace }
colon :
comma ,
exclamation mark !
period / point / dot / full stop .
question mark ?
semicolon ;
ampersand &
asterisk *
forward slash /
caret ^
degree sign °
caps on formats next phrase in Title Case
caps off resumes default letter case
all caps formats next word in ALL CAPS
all caps on proceeds in ALL CAPS
all caps off resumes default letter case
dollar sign $
cent sign ¢
pound sterling sign £
new line adds line break
numeral formats next phrase as number
new paragraph adds paragraph break
tab key advances cursor to the next tab stop
dollar sign $
cent sign ¢
pound sterling sign £
new line adds line break
numeral formats next phrase as number
new paragraph adds paragraph break
tab key advances cursor to the next tab stop

Lazy….or Brilliant?

Oh the weather outside is frightful…..well, maybe not that bad…but cloudy and snowing none the less.  Not a storm, but a steady flurry of snow with dreary clouds everywhere.  And my sinus headache reminds me what the weather is, even when I can’t see the skies!

This morning, I went to the library with a list of deeds to scan and wouldn’t you know it, several pages on the reel were not scanned in focus – including a short series of pages containing a deed I was especially anxious to see.  I scanned the page anyway and printed it out before leaving. It almost looks like it was filmed twice in the same frame.  So I knew I’d want to transcribe the page immediately or I’d look at it later and be less than motivated to try to decipher it.


Enter the sinus headache – there was no way my eyes could go back and forth between the document and the computer screen.  Not even if I had the scan and word processor side by side.  My head would have split wide open leaving quite a mess on my desk!  If only I could read it out loud and have someone else type it for me….wait a minute…..what about Siri on my cell phone?

I decided to give it a try and I think I have a new “normal” way to transcribe my documents! I opened a new email, clicked on the microphone and began to read. She was amazing at recording what I was saying!  Of course, a few words were “auto-corrected”, but those were easy to find and correct in my word processor.  I was able to read several sentences before Siri would “bing” at me, indicating that her memory was packed, so I’d click “done”, she’d type what I had so far and then I’d click the microphone and continue reading.  By the time I was done, I had a nice little email ready to send.

I copied the email into my word processor and began to read for accuracy.  Since I’d just read it out loud, most things I was able to fix without even looking at the horrible copy I had from the microfilm.  Some of the “misinterpretations” included:

appurtenances>after 10 manses (what???)
aforesaid>at four said

Overall, not too bad! I’m certainly going to use this method for the other deeds that I scanned today and if they go as smoothly as this one did – I may be grabbing my book of deeds to see how many I can get transcribed this week-end!

And now I’m thinking about using this same method during my 10 minute drive home from the library.  Seems like my brain churns out questions about what I’ve just discovered and using Siri to type an email to myself as I think of these questions would be an easy way to make my list while everything is still fresh in my mind.

Hmmm….other thoughts are now going through my mind….this could get interesting!

Ellis Island “How To” for Educators

Recently, a US History teacher in my school asked me if I could “come up with something” to help his students determine if they had any ancestors who had arrived through Ellis Island. Since we’ve had several snow days here (actually, little snow but wind chills around -25!!) I’ve had plenty of time to put together a packet for his class showing how to find that out using only free web sites –, and Steven Morse’s One Step site (although I did mention that the local library may give access to Ancestry, which ours does.)

I thought I’d offer the packet to anyone who might find it useful as well.  It is a PDF document with clickable links as well as a family tree circle chart, blank 1940 census example and blank 1930 census example. It is designed so that it can be broken down into sections easily and I do give basic information on Bob Hope as a search subject if no family of their own came through Ellis Island.

The information in the packet is certainly not entirely from my own brain, but the layout of the packet is, so I put a copyright at the bottom with absolutely no legal knowledge on my part! Needed? I don’t know.  Illegal? I hope not!

If you just happen to be a genealogist who just happens to be a teacher who just happens to be reading my blog….enjoy!

Did Your Ancestors Come Through Ellis Island?

Confession of a flash addict

Is anyone else addicted to portable storage?

School was cancelled today, so I spent the day organizing my digital files – getting everything onto one “Master Drive”. I have a habit of putting a few files onto a portable flash drive “in case I have some free time” but then I worry that I’m going to forget something, so I copy folders with family group sheets and surname notes as well. So later, I’m unsure which files are the last to be updated, and to be safe, I don’t delete anything. And then I see a flashdrive with more storage and I have to have it and then that becomes my “just in case” drive.

Couple that with the fact that when I scan files at the library, the folder is automatically given the name “Scanwrite”. For several years, the computers at the library would not allow you to access anything other than the library web site or the scanning software, so I was always sure to write down what was in the folder – but never quite got around to renaming it because “I’m sure I won’t forget!”

Repeat this for a few years and soon, I have duplicated files out my ears and I’m never sure exactly what I have. So today, I decided to “get organized”. Step one – collect the flash drives.

Let’s see – there’s my normal genealogy flash drive and my school flash drive, which just might have a file or two collected over lunch breaks.  And wait… I used to have a blue flash drive, so where is that? I think it may be in my research backpack. When I look in the pocket, lo and behold, there’s also a flash drive that I had to purchase at the library because I accidentally left mine at home. And look! There’s also a teeny tiny flash drive that was just sooooooooo cute that I had to have it! That reminds me that somewhere, I have a flash drive that looks like a little surf board that was an AWESOME deal for 10 whole gigs! I know where that one is stored and when I get that, I also see my old iPod that I used for storage for quite awhile as well. Which reminds me of my very first external drive – what files might be on there?

So bottom line – I’ve been transferring files all day. I have a 1 terabyte drive that I’ve copied everything onto – well, only files for my Mom’s side of the family. And only files that were not created by me, such as family group sheets or timelines or notes. Six flash drives, 1 iPod, 1 older external drive and files on my laptop have been combined into one location. As I copied to my external, I deleted from the device I was working with.  If I had already copied something from a previous device, I deleted it from the the remaining drives.

I’ve placed everything into folders by county name. There are some additional folders for photos, maps, military histories and educational information I’ve collected. Each county has folders for cemetery records/images,  land records, tax records and census records. But the files in my county folders are still named really creatively – like Scan 01, Scan 02, etc. How many of these files might be duplicates? That is what I’ll be working on next. As I have time, I’ll be working on renaming the files and making a list of what I’ve already scanned – to make sure I don’t duplicate things again!

Of course, my external drive isn’t nearly as easy to take along as a flash drive, so as I get things renamed, I’ll want to put everything onto one “Master flash”.

And luckily for me – I have an awesome 32 gig flash drive still in the package that I got at a great after Christmas sale!


Well, I was steaming along quite nicely with my research until the holiday pack up caught up with me and the snow hit! Have only been out of the house once since Saturday (grocery shelves are almost as bare as our kitchen pantry!) – although I may venture to the library today. Roads are still dicey – all schools have canceled – so we’ll have to see how lucky I’m feeling after lunch.

But I’ll be using this opportunity to organize files on my laptop as well as in my “genealogy cave”. Hope to get back on the Welcome Stephens research train soon!